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Ny vild BD-afspiller på vej fra Pioneer.

Indlægaf Raskolnikov » søn aug 24, 2008 20:37

Pioneer kommer snart med en ordenlig "madkasse" af en afspiller. 


          
  

     
     
               


Last May Pioneer told us that autumn would bring a "super duper" Blu-ray player--the most powerful Blu-ray player ever built. It makes up for the current crop, which are lower in price but are missing key features like BD-Live for internet-based content. Well, not a leaf has fallen off atree, yet here it is already, the $2,200 Elite BDP-09FD. Feature-wise, the best Blu-ray player on the market has been the PS3--turns out, an extra $1,700 will buy you something that kills Sony's game console as far as Blu-ray and other media are concerned.



As you probably guessed, Pioneer finally accepts the need for 2.0. This
will come with Ethernet and be fully capable of BD-Live playback, no
firmware updates needed at the get-go. Unlike other BD-Live players,
which require SD cards, this one comes with 4GB of internal memory for downloads.

The thing is a Mack truck, 45 or 50 lbs. of steel and aluminum with everything mounted carefully to eliminate vibration. The bottom layer of the aluminum-housed chassis is a quarter-inch plate of solid steel, and it's even got feet from a Japanese company called TAOC, supposedly the most vibration-free platform you can get. There are no wires inside either; all connections are physically mounted from the circuit board to the walls to reduce noise.

Pioneer says all of the engineering is so that this can be a single box that replaces some home theater snob's high-end CD player, DVD player and previous-gen Blu-ray player, blowing each in turn out of the water.

In the audio department, Pioneer recommends using this for decoding all music and movie soundtrack, and going analog out with those gold-plated 7.1 RCA jacks. It's decodes all known codecs from DTS and Dolby using a separate digital-to-analog converter for each channel. This is a little like having a separate motor for each wheel of your car. Combining this with some crazy audio engineering, they created a way for "completely perfect noise-free signal" to come through RCA jacks instead of the costlier old-school XLR jacks. "It's far better than what you find in most receivers," says Pioneer's Chris Walker. In fact, everything, including speaker preferences and other receiver-like tweaks, are adjustable from inside the player.

It's also got that crazy CD-playback technique first seen on Pioneer's summer models: When used with certain Pioneer receivers, it produces jitter-free disc playback.

In terms of video, it has 1080p/24 for Blu-ray and DVD content too, as you might expect, with a best-on-the-market image processor also found in Meridian's crazy 10-megapixel projector. The 09's next-level achievement is that it upconverts color information to 16 bits, previously unheard of because nobody had a system that could handle 16-bit color data. (Pioneer had to build their own for this mission.) That means that each picture can have up to "2,800 trillion" (um, 2.8 quadrillion??) colors, which the processor interpolates by looking at each frame of the Blu-ray's 8-bit color movie. Though most TVs only process 10-bit, Walker says that it's better to send over a richer signal that the TV has to tone down, thanletting the TV upgrade the Blu-ray data itself. When TVs hit 16-bit, this sucka will be ready.

Cooler to me are the two HDMI jacks on the back. It's a first for a Blu-ray player (or PS3), and it means you can hook up the same player to both your projector and your flat-panel display without a splitter or some on-the-fly rewiring. You can even split it up so that HDMI 1 only does audio, while HDMI 2 does video, freeing up more video bandwidth, especially in those pesky longer cables that might get a bit
choked. The HDMI can detect the source, and automatically determine
what audio and video to send over.

Obviously, some people are going to be content with their PS3s for the time being (after all, they are only $500, a small price by comparison). And Walker acknowledges that speed is always going to bethe saving grace of the game console. ("If we were to build a Blu-ray player around an Intel or Cell processor, we'd have those kinds of speeds too.") But as far as picture and audio output, nothing quite resembles this "super duper" machine. And on top of all that, we can stop bitching about Pioneer ignoring BD-Live, and getting on with the future. Now, seriously, why would ANYONE buy Pioneer's last batch? Save your money, home-theater snobs. This badass will be out soon. [Pioneer]
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Indlægaf Janils » søn aug 24, 2008 22:18

Det er lige den jeg har ventet pÃ¥! Nu skal min billige Sony BDP-S300 "tilbudsmodel" snart pensioneres! (som 1 Ã¥rig!). Men kan man sÃ¥ gøre den der Pioneer kodefri?  Se det er det næste store spørgsmÃ¥l!
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Indlægaf Bulgarien » man aug 25, 2008 00:08

Virkelig imponerende !

Jeg havde faktisk ikke forstillet mig at fremtidens CD afspiller skulle være udstyret med køleblæser.

Faktisk bliver jeg hele tiden overrasket over hvad ingeniørerne kan udvikle...

Det er en spændende tid vi lever i på mange måder, og det kan jeg vel godt tillade mig at sige da jeg er vokset op i 60èrne, og hvor transistoren dengang så dagens lys i konsumprodukter.

Det minder mig om at jeg var ligesÃ¥ fascineret over ingeniørkunsten dengang jeg havde verdens første  første CD afspiller- en Phillip CD 100-hjemme pÃ¥ prøve engang i 1984,( kr. 15.000 kr).

 CD pladen som jeg fik lov at lÃ¥ne med med var Tina Turner, Private dancer. (Udvalget var nærmest ikke eksisterende, men Tina kunne man selvfølgelig fÃ¥

At afspilleren mildt sagt  var ualmindelig klinisk at lytte til  er idag ingen hemmelig og slet da blev  ikke sat op mod den varme og dynamiske Ortofon SPU gold pick-up , der dengang sad pÃ¥ pladespilleren, og hvor den tilsvarende LP lynhurtigt kvalte alt hvad der hed digital musik.

Ak ja  Det var tider ;-) Der er tydeligvis løbet meget strøm gennem transistorerne siden da.




Phillips CD100 (1983)

FÃ¥ historien om CD`en:  Hvorfor er den præcis pÃ¥ 74 minutter og hvorfor er den ikke mindre?
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Alle Phillips CD afspillere gennem historien
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Indlægaf Modifix » man aug 25, 2008 00:09

Spændende nyt fra Pioneer og interessant at vide noget om hvordan prissætningen vil blive herhjemme?

Mvh. Jens/Modifix . en Pioneer i den prisklasse ser sikkert også godt ud inside!
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Indlægaf Pioneer » man aug 25, 2008 12:06

I Europa kommer topmodellen til at hedde BDP-LX91 og kommer pÃ¥ markedet til november/december.
Prisen kendes endnu ikke, men den bliver sikkert ikke billig.
 
Den model der er afbillledet er til det amerikanske marked, og der vil sikkert være en del forskelle. Vi har endnu ikke alle specs på BDP-LX91 så jeg kan desværre ikke komme det nærmere.
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Indlægaf HenrikW » man aug 25, 2008 14:23

Arj hvor ser den pisse OK ud! Havde ellers luret pÃ¥ Denon 3800BD, men den pioneer ser jo ogsÃ¥ ganske lovende ud. HÃ¥ber der kommer flere BD afspillere i samme klasse  :dans:
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Indlægaf Pioneer » man aug 25, 2008 14:54

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