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[stridsvognen]

Ny Black Beauty SPX uspillet, defekt stylus, og bedst til 0g armmasse og 0g nåletryk.
Skal prøve om jeg kan finde billederne af stylus, eller få købt et nyt USB mikroskop.

[Medlem]

Ny Black Beauty SPX uspillet, defekt stylus, og bedst til 0g armmasse og 0g nåletryk.
Skal prøve om jeg kan finde billederne af stylus, eller få købt et nyt USB mikroskop.

Hvad mener du med defekt stylus?

[Medlem]

Lov mig du holder fast i din frø indtil du har fundet noget du er sikker på der er bedre..

Hvis du finder noget i Grashopper klassen der kan fungere til omkring 12g armmasse/ 1,7g nåletryk eller deromkring, så send venligst lige et link.

Frøen bliver ikke solgt. Har man først fundet en der spiller og performer sÃ¥ godt, er det for mig en keeper   Det er der jeg er nÃ¥et til nu. Jeg vil gerne bygge en mindre samling op, pÃ¥ skal vi sige, 3-4 pu'er.
VdH skulle holde mange timer, 3000? (under forudsætning af at de er bygget godt fra starten - og ikke skal reppes   )

Så jeg vil gerne prøve noget med en noget anden lydsignatur - Koetsu, ja måske, eller Kiseki, den nye Blue NS?
Lejerne i min arm, skulle være gode nok til at håndtere en stivere pu, og selv om det ikke på papiret ville være et optimalt match, så måske alligevel.

Så er der også Shelter, men de har ikke så skarpe slibninger, det er vist en lidt anden filosofi de kører efter.

Jeg skal se om jeg kan komme pÃ¥ noget, for det er jo faktisk i samme boldgade jeg kigger    - altsÃ¥ 12 g arm/1,7 g nÃ¥letryk.

[stridsvognen]

Ny Black Beauty SPX uspillet, defekt stylus, og bedst til 0g armmasse og 0g nåletryk.
Skal prøve om jeg kan finde billederne af stylus, eller få købt et nyt USB mikroskop.

Hvad mener du med defekt stylus?

Den ligner et stykke sort glas/ sand, eller andet skidt, ingen ide om hvad det er.. Andet end at en slebet diamant er det ikke.

[Medlem]

Ny Black Beauty SPX uspillet, defekt stylus, og bedst til 0g armmasse og 0g nåletryk.
Skal prøve om jeg kan finde billederne af stylus, eller få købt et nyt USB mikroskop.

Hvad mener du med defekt stylus?

Den ligner et stykke sort glas/ sand, eller andet skidt, ingen ide om hvad det er.. Andet end at en slebet diamant er det ikke.

Say WHAT? Hvad sagde VdH til det? Hvorfor har du ikke fÃ¥et den byttet?  

[stridsvognen]

Off t.opic

[Medlem]

Øhhhe, det er jo en form for "standard svar" - enkelte passager har jeg læst i anden sammenhæng!  

Det virker ikke som om at du får et direkte og relateret svar, men mere som et robotsvar - spørgsmålet er om det er fra ham selv?

Det virker da vildt syret...

[Medlem]

Faktisk er det jo en tro kopi af det "svar" Radioactiv, impotøren af VdH, fik fra VdH på en kritik i en tråd, forleden dag på hifi4all,

Mikke G. skriver:

Hej!

Jeg har modtaget følgende respons fra Radioactiv, importøren af Van den Hul her i Danmark, som har taget kontakt til Van den Hul, oven på debatten her i tråden.

Samtidig skal det understreges, at alle reparationer, ombygninger m.m. skal gå gennem den danske importør. På den måde går tingene nemmere, og man er bedst sikret i tilfælde af reklamation.

Her kommer Van den Hul's respons på påstandene her i tråden, og lad mig starks understrege at usaglige og evt. dumsmarte bemærkninger fjernes:

"The start of my professional analogue activities was the design of my stylus VDH-1. This stylus shape was intended to have minimal record wear (optimal fitting in the groove) and maximum resolution. At the start, there was a lot of rejection because, by lack of real understanding, claims were made that this was a groove killer. A well known cartridge manufacturer in your country has also created by a well know journalist a very negative atmosphere by producing groove pictures which showed serious damage. In the mean time I got in many countries the official patent roghts for my design.

After a while, when the light was switched on again, there was suddenly the <MC-30 incl. the VDH-1. Everyone happy again. The manufacturer of my VDH-1 stylus, the Fritz Gyhger Company in Thun Switzerland thought, after a while, that it worked commercially better for them when the VDH-1 was renamed Gyger 1.

Smelling problems, I have bought their complete stock and I am still using this stock. No other stock worldwide is available anymore. The beginning of my cartridge line was the request of Mr. Benz, to design an MC cartridge for his company after he bought the USA cartridge manufacturer "Empire". That was the MC-1000.

Regular I do receive old samples for repair and replacement of parts. In those days, Mr. Benz got a car accident and he was not able to produce his cartridges anymore. Around the same time, I made the design of the DDT and following VDH models like MC-10, MC-1, Mc-1 Super & MC-2. So I was forced to put these designs together myself. I have made hundreds of these cartridges per year. At the same time I have introduced the first Grasshopper, the start of a very successful series of designs.

After Mr. Benz sold his manufacturing and brand-name: "Micro Benz" to Mr. Alfred Lukaschek, Mr. Lukaschek continued the production of parts like e.g. the different housings which I bought from him. And, at the same time, I was requested by 5 other companies to design and advice in the development of their MC cartridges. Not only the outside but also the inside had to be original and customer made.

Before and just after the introduction of the CD in 1982, there was so much work, that I stopped my regular work and focused completely on manufacturing of my phono-cartridges. Beside building phono-cartridges, I was and still am involved in the repair of all kind of models. These repairs I am still doing completely myself: Both my own models and any other brand.

Just before the introduction of the CD, I have bought all available cartridge components available in the several cartridge factories. And I am still using them up to now. Especially rubber dampers (stored in the deep-freeze) are actually quality based very rear. Thanks to the growing success, I have asked Mr. Lukaschek to produce more parts as he did. The last 15 years, Mr. Lukaschek puts the cheaper models together.

When there is an order for e.g.an MC-10, this cartridge is opened again and inspected, measured and fine-tuned to the tone-arm used in combination with this cartridge. No other manufacturer offers this service. And, after 200 - 300 hours of playing, the owner has the right to return for a final inspection and adjustments on wish. Also this service is not available at any other cartridge manufacturer.

I do completely build: The Frog (any type), all Grasshopper models, The Condor, The Colibri (any type) and The Crimson. Has anyone of your forum members ever designed and build a phono-cartridge, even a very good sounding one well known all over the world?

All cartridges which arrive here for repair are measured and photographed to avoid claims afterwards which were not true. We have had bad experinec here and this was the only way to proof that the customers played unfair. After repair, the same procedure again so we know the quality before mailing.

What we experienced regular was that customers did their adjustments themselves by e.g. a tracking-force test tracking 80 - 90 micron or even more thanks to the German DHFI test-record by Braun Verlag  with even 115 micron. The antiskating adjustment needs to be set higher here compared to e.g. tracking 40 - 50 micron cutting amplitude. Too high antiskating settings give unbalanced wear of the stylus (front view: right side is worn and left side still O.K.) and an off set cantilever caused by one-sided squeezed damping rubber(s). Remedy here is to replace the damper. But, with the same arm-settings, the same effect will happen again.

A serious problem is that the owner of the cartridge (any type) does not tell which tone-arm he is going to use.  When it is an SME type or any equivalents model, there is no problem. But some manufacturers produce really heavy things where the effective arm mass is outranging the 8 - 14 gram. I have measured the static weight of a well known USA tone-arm reaching 425 gram. Despite a tracking force of 1,35 - 1,5 gram, no suspension can handle this massive weight in relation with warped records and/or non centered records. Also one-pivot arms ar not my friends thanks to the non-predictable balance during playing. Static all O.K. Dynamic always unbalance.

I specify for my lightweight models like the MC-10 and upwards an effective arm weight of 8 - 14 gram. Am "overdesigned" tone-arm causes suspension problems and will create a higher crosstalk during playing. We also see regular cartridge where the owner has reconnected the lead-out wires of his turntable with new connectors: "Expensive connectors sound always better" is the standard slogan of the audiophile. But his turntable is also connected to the ground-connection of the phono-amplifier. Soldering with an (even minor) current leaking soldering device, creates a small AC current through the cartridge coil where this coils was not made for. It suddenly acts as fuse and will pass for ever. Also phono-stages with leaking AC will give this effect. And active DC on the input of the phono-stage will have the same effect.

A non-conductive coil NEVER leaves here our company because all is double checked. Might it be that it is to easy to blame the manufacturer instead of helping yourself with a technical better solution?

We have an open office from 08:00 until 16:30 each day where I continue to mostly 18:00. The statement that I am not available is just incorrect. Anyone who picks up the phone here, knows the basic stories about cartridges and can respond correct. Your forum members should be able to make correct statements based on better technical understanding like I also can do based on 43 years of experience in building and measuring thousands of cartridges.

Public damaging a committed audiophile looks great and impressive for yourself and your forum members but, in reality, you show your own lack of respect."

With Best Audio Regards,
Aalt Jouk van den Hul.



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Viljens magt er stor! Mvh, Mikkel

[stridsvognen]

Ja det var så også den jeg copy past, bare at jeg ikke ville rode Hr Faktuel korrekt med ind i debatten.. Så ham havde jeg lige sorteret fra. Og importøren ved sikkert ikke bedre, men det finder de ud af med tiden, kan være man skal sende dem et link til VDHs ven, bagdørssælgeren der sælger alt VDH til det halve, direkte fra VDH.

Der er trods alt sikkert en grund til at de fleste VDH forhandlere ikke holder så frygteligt længe.

[Medlem]

Viljens magt er stor! Mvh, Mikkel


Hehehe, den signatur fortjener simpelthen en gentagelse      

Hold nu k.... hvor er det selv-i-scene-sættende      

[Medlem]

Ja det var så også den jeg copy past, bare at jeg ikke ville rode Hr Faktuel korrekt med ind i debatten.. Så ham havde jeg lige sorteret fra. Og importøren ved sikkert ikke bedre, men det finder de ud af med tiden, kan være man skal sende dem et link til VDHs ven, bagdørssælgeren der sælger alt VDH til det halve, direkte fra VDH.

Der er trods alt sikkert en grund til at de fleste VDH forhandlere ikke holder så frygteligt længe.

Det har han gjort på elegant vis i de sidste 10 år, på Audiogon, eBay, AudioMarkt og andre fora/køb-salg hifi.

Han har ret god service, jeg ser ingen grund til at sætte navn på ham, eller "udlevere" ham til nogen.

Desuden er han best body med VdH selv, så jeg tvivler på at der kommer noget ud af det.

Har du fÃ¥et historien om at han sælger sÃ¥ billigt, fordi overskuddet gÃ¥r til fattige børn?      

[stridsvognen]

Nej det er vores allesammens bagdør.. lol
Men som sagt en lidt underlig foranstaltning hvis man samtidig ønsker at have faste forhandlere, med vejledende udsalgspriser.

Her er der en tidligere forhandler der får smidt et par spydige bemærkninger.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/ ... an-den-hul

[Medlem]

Nej det er vores allesammens bagdør.. lol
Men som sagt en lidt underlig foranstaltning hvis man samtidig ønsker at have faste forhandlere, med vejledende udsalgspriser.

Det er en pænt stor forretning, og tænk hvad det skaber af omtale. Fint at få lidt mere ud, til en noget lavere pris godt nok, men som så kan være med til at give noget omtale.
Bare se hvad vi har gang i her  
De fleste nævner jo forresten heller ikke at de har fået det til ½ pris, hvis nu det skal sælges igen...

[Medlem]

Nej det er vores allesammens bagdør.. lol
Men som sagt en lidt underlig foranstaltning hvis man samtidig ønsker at have faste forhandlere, med vejledende udsalgspriser.

Her er der en tidligere forhandler der får smidt et par spydige bemærkninger.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/ ... an-den-hul

Ja, kender godt tråden.

Fint indlæg om Frog ser jeg lige igen:

zenieth
381 posts
06-21-2010 3:59pm
I had a Frog for some time. Very musical with to die for mids / highs. I went to Lyra Skala and have been happy with it's performance over the past 2 years.

[stridsvognen]

Korrekt, der er en fiktiv listepris der er med til at holde brugtmarkedspriserne oppe, der er VDH ikke den eneste der bruger, jeg betalte 150euro for en ny nål til en Grashopper, også ca ½ pris, problemt er bare at jeg havde hellere betalt 1000 euro for at få en pickup der virkede bagefter.

Eller hvis du feks betaler 20000kr for en ny Black Beauty SPX, skal man så heller ikke forvente at den kan spore.?